tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post4841180572143674913..comments2023-10-16T06:10:24.969-04:00Comments on Julie Unplugged: Squeezing salvation in...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00088119765077193302noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post-59923158842048705182007-02-15T12:23:00.000-05:002007-02-15T12:23:00.000-05:00This brought to mind some of the conversations we'...This brought to mind some of the conversations we've had on the email list about doing a "salvage job" on our beliefs, i.e. reinterpreting classic Christian affirmations in such a way as to use the familiar wording even though our understanding of the reality behind the doctrine has changed. I would say that for the most part, "salvage" is meant in a demeaning way in that context... basically, that the person isn't being fully honest in trying to change the meaning or the way that words are commonly understood. But I'm not so sure that we should look down on "salvaging" important words, concepts, symbols, etc. in that way. Who says that the original usages of those words weren't salvage jobs themselves? <BR/><BR/>I think religious faith, belief and institutions often need to be salvaged, cleaned-up and overhauled for them to remain relevant and useful. Of course one could just dispose of the whole mess and buy something new, so to speak, but there is value in continuity, not to mention the whole idea of "stewardship!" <BR/><BR/>Thanks for connecting those two theologically loaded words and allowing us to see them in a new way.David Blakesleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12167200509158903679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post-74163327195172494292007-02-15T10:30:00.000-05:002007-02-15T10:30:00.000-05:00Interesting that you should mention this in your p...Interesting that you should mention this in your post today, Julie. We're going to discuss Salvation at Nexus this Sunday and I just wrote a short piece on what salvation means to me that I'm going to publish next week.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>BrianBrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035489123868573312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post-11435098910384373202007-02-15T09:49:00.000-05:002007-02-15T09:49:00.000-05:00I like this, Julie. Your ideas of salvation parall...I like this, Julie. Your ideas of salvation parallel the ways I like to think about my spiritual life as being in a constant, ongoing state of "redemption." <BR/><BR/>"Salvation" might be an appropriate word for what people experience, but for me, it's too much about past and future. I have statically been saved from something and saved toward something... but what about now?!<BR/><BR/>For me, the better word that describes my spiritual journey is "redemption." And it fits well with your daughter's car analogy. The parts of my spiritual life that need replacing, repairing, shining up, etc. are an ongoing maintenance process that keeps the car going, doing what it's supposed to do.<BR/><BR/>And about a little sub-topic you mentioned—I've wondered what you thought about Ted Haggard's recent proclamation. If he's truly 100% straight, why did the church pay him off to leave Colorado Springs and avoid working in ministry? I'd love to hear your take on the whole thing, especially after your previous article on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post-38132468230034087942007-02-14T22:11:00.000-05:002007-02-14T22:11:00.000-05:00I'll just ditto what Carrie said. Salvaged or save...I'll just ditto what Carrie said. Salvaged or saved, my life can be described as being recycled after what's left after the wreck so to speak. ;) It'd be nice, though, if I could stop at one wreck rather than have other wrecks along the way.Dalissa 365https://www.blogger.com/profile/06021130531894235438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9684236.post-40745272493018812522007-02-14T19:20:00.000-05:002007-02-14T19:20:00.000-05:00I feel like a salvaged ship, limping along in tow ...I feel like a salvaged ship, limping along in tow and very grateful for not being on the bottom of the ocean. ;-) <BR/><BR/>Good thoughts.carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00483414028348315498noreply@blogger.com